if bruce threatens is continuing to threaten people, i suggest we alert the press...yes the press...if bruce was smart, he would address these issues, answer our questions and problems instead of just banning post.

everyone alert the press about your concern, we have  a right to know the truth

I agree with “me”, where are other 11 pages of this forum, what's going on? Where are all the comments by J?
I am in the same boat with dozens (or hundreds?) of job seekers who was asked to call and got “mail box is full message”. Honestly I didn’t expect much after browsing through Cereprotec web-site...
Few little things also alerted me like the fact that the other side of the line sounded quiet and not busy as I would expect. As well as Sandra’s last name was spelled differently in her e-mail address and electronic signature (Stewart/Stewert). Not very professional, isn’t it?
I have read all the previous comments of this forum up to the end of the day on Monday, and I just wanted to express my respect to J. He or She seems to be a highly educated and knowledgeable person, with excellent logic and judgement, very polite and straight to the point (despite of all that personal offences that his opponents were using to shut him/her up, ex. “go and find girl friend”). I believe comments like this are highly inappropriate and not related to the subject of discussion in any way. Thank you J, it’s mostly because of your input that I have read through all the discussion, and thank you for providing with valuable links and information.
As for Mr. Krieger behaviour I am shocked that a head of large educational and research organisation, a writer, can be so rude and threatening. By the way somebody mentioned on this web-site or indeed.com, that 3 months of internship with Krieger CRO after graduation from Krieger institute can be qualified as 6 months of industry experience?  How this could be justified? Could anybody explain? Thank you.

I received an email for a CRA position today from the following company:ClinQua Clinical Trials Inc.4370 La Jolla Village DriveSan Diego, 92122-1249Tel.  (858) 605-1793www.clinqua.coma.bale @ clinqua.comUSAYes! I also received an email from the above company with same matter.They are the fraud people. They have robbed me for USD1600.00 through online course of certification of clinical research professional development. No job ever landed till today since I have completed the course in Aug.2008No organization, no company ever recognize the Kriger, IBPA.Be careful with these two names for any online material and enticement.

I will agree with all of the above comments. This is definitely a scam, which should be reported. About 10 months back I was also contacted by a so called recruiter who said that my qualifications match with most of the jobs they have, the only thing lacking was a certification in ICH-GCP Guidelines. The agency sent another email that based on my qualification I could get a partial scholarship for this online course. This person also said that once I am done with this 'so called CRA/CRC Professional Development program' I will be offered a job at some affiliated CRO.I decided to go ahead and it has been
nearly six months and I have not heard from this company. The institute I was referred for training was the 'Clinical Research Training Institute'.All my efforts to contact the recruiter both by phone and via email have gone invain. This is a big scam so be aware. These recruiters and these intitutes whether Krieger or the CRTI are affiliated and they are there to fool people,make money and the surprising thing is that they get away with these scams. Something has to be done to stop these people in making fools of gullable individuals desperate to get jobs.

This is what I got the Espoir Bridge. These guys are really idiots, they keep sending me the same e-mail regarding registering for Kriger's CRA even if I already told them I completed the course. Gues how many times they sent this e-mail? At least 15-20 times.
Just read how they do advertising for Kriger. By the way, the last phrase is really STUPID.  








Hello ,

I hope you are doing well. Please use this
e-mail:
info @ espoirbridge.com  - I review it more
frequently.

Let me tell you more about getting a job of
clinical research
associate just to make sure we are on the same
page.

It is extremely difficult to talk to employer if
the candidates
don't have clinical research experience and/or
training.

If you are determined to pursue with CRA career
path,
I would strongly recommend you to obtain GCP /
CRA certificate
through  training and certification  program, if
you didn't
do it in the past. There are many
clinical research associate programs available on
the internet.
Very few of them include practical part.

If you ask me, I'd recommend KRGI Training
program:
http://www.krgi.org/training/
and this is because:

1. It is, apperently, the largest CRA training
institution in the world
2. They have an internship  included in the
program that adds up to
your CRA experience and they provide job
references.
3. They are recognised by The International
Biopharmaceutical
Association and tuition fees are partialy covered
through this
organization. Here is an application form:

http://www.ibpassociation.org/app_forms/uk_form.php

(If you decide to apply - use our institution ref
number -
"EspoirBridge - code CR12" as a
referring recruiter, this will make it more
plausible that you get a good
percentage of coverage.)

I have placed many of KRGI grads, so it is
natural for me to be a
strong proponent of this program.

Usually  this training takes  6-8 weeks to
complete. But it is totaly
self-paced program, and they issue a password for
3 months, that
can be extended later.

This is on-line training, and there is nothing
wrong with that.

Why would y'all mention these concerns on an obscure blog?  Why not with BBB or a state or fed attorny general? I checked Kriger out with Better Business Bureau and found no unresolved problems.  And the 3 resolved problems were all billing not content or ethics.  I'm not defending Kriger aka EspoirBridge aka IBPA aka Clinqua aka whatever (although the training they give is true if out-of-date) but if you have proof (I don't) then take it to the authorities so that fplks like me don't fall for this.By the way "Someone with a brain", you DO have to pay for a job - college or training (like KRC offers).