I noticed that more than one discussion forum on the subject of espoirbridge, cereprotec, kriger, etc, has mysteriously disappeared. A discussion on indeed.com (http://www.indeed.com/forum/job/clinical-rese ... c137e1e737d4204)disappeared. Several pages of this discussion also disappeared.I'd like to invite people to continue the talk at http://rantawaythoseblues.blogspot.com/I created the space so that this discussion can continue, even if this particular thread is taken down. Please bookmark it!Hope to hear more from all of you.

not specifically with EspoirBridge, but with another recruitment company (and not for a clinical research position).

They promised to contact me as soon as they get my references (mentioned: 1 day after) but they did not do so in almost one month. Also, they lied, on one hand they confirmed they got my references but later they just denied that, even if I have proof they really received it. Probably to cover up their incompetence. Anyway, I have supporting proofs that I did everything right.

Since this is unprofessional I requested they remove all my data and never call me again. Anyway, the last message from them (even if I specifically asked them not to call me again) was insulting: "short temper","lack of understanding" and "offence" (they only thing I said was that this situation proved no coordination and proper managemanent of papers.

I mentioned that I don't want them to call me again, I want that they remove all my data and that any inconveniences caused by them in the future will be legally handled.

To sum up, it is shocking how rude and unprofessional these people are, even if they make money from people like you. They show not respect but not even elementary education, poor manners and disgusting behaviour and therefore I decided to avoid such questionable individuals in the future.

congratulations dude, I've read the comments and I tried to post one but I need password for it...



1. A forum is for people to share their opinions with a specific company, both positive and negative. This negative comment does not have to be approved by a corporate bastard since it is not addressed to him and it is not his corporate website. If I say a took a specific CRA course and I did not like it since it was full with mistakes, redundant, without any logic and rationale and of very very poor  quality I just express an opinion. And it helps even the company, who may want to improve the quality of the course.

2. If someone posts negative comments about a company, this reflects personal experience, and this is the very reason why people use forums and blogs. Of course, we assume honest individuals do that, not people from other companies who try to denigrate other companies (which I don't think it happens very often, only paranoid and very stupid people belive in "hidden agendas" and conspiration theories). But what such very stupid people don't realize is that by becoming histerical and behaving in a stalinist manner does not help, actually on the contrary.

I have received dubious job offers from Cereprotec, Biorole, Pharmalef, EspoirBrigde and Clinqua. They all belong to Krieger research and eventually refer you to go take a course with them. They don't care if you already have a good and solid education or experience in the field. It is strange that for all of these companies, after they ask you to call them to discuss the posiytion or for a phone interview, not even a single soul is in these so-called "reputable" companies to take your call; and no one ever call you back. Espoirbridge even referred me to the IBPA which strangely offered me a scholarship that can only be used at Krieger for the CRA certificate program. I read another forum on indeed and found that Krieger research and its associates are all dupes! I took the Clinical Research Program at George Washington, which is more expensive, but very much worth it. Besides you can't go wrong with an established institution. Forget about Krieger, Biorole, Pharmalef, Espoirbridge, Cereprotec, Clinqua and the so many other aliases that this phony people can adopt. Good luck!

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"Never waste money and time with kreiger you will never see any CRA graduated from kreiger they are making money from you if you need to join ask them to give you field experience or internship and if they are willing to do so ask them in written, or pay once you get field internship. indeed kreiger reputation is not good"

I agree with ?me?, where are other 11 pages of this forum, what's going on? Where are all the comments by J?I am in the same boat with dozens (or hundreds?) of job seekers who was asked to call and got ?mail box is full message?. Honestly I didn?t expect much after browsing through Cereprotec web-site...Few little things also alerted me like the fact that the other side of the line sounded quiet and not busy as I would expect. As well as Sandra?s last name was spelled differently in her e-mail address and electronic signature (Stewart/Stewert). Not very professional, isn?t it?I have read all the previous comments of this forum up to the end of the day on Monday, and I just wanted to express my respect to J. He or She seems to be a highly educated and knowledgeable person, with excellent logic and judgement, very polite and straight to the point (despite of all that personal offences that his opponents were using to shut him/her up, ex. ?go and find girl friend?). I believe comments like this are highly inappropriate and not related to the subject of discussion in any way. Thank you J, it?s mostly because of your input that I have read through all the discussion, and thank you for providing with valuable links and information.As for Mr. Krieger behaviour I am shocked that a head of large educational and research organisation, a writer, can be so rude and threatening. By the way somebody mentioned on this web-site or indeed.com, that 3 months of internship with Krieger CRO after graduation from Krieger institute can be qualified as 6 months of industry experience?  How this could be justified? Could anybody explain? Thank you.